Large scale Indoor Farming,a working model.The future is here!
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My partner and I develop alternative businesses,this is without a doubt the best idea Blaine ever brought to the table.We're in the seventh month of this project so I can present it for others to do as well.I'll tell you, this may be the Big one.Blaine learned about some folks in New York city who purchased an abandoned high rise[every city has these]and did something radical with it.The cost of renovation and location(surrounded by other abandoned buildings) was the reason this and many other buildings had no real value.In other words,they got it Cheap.
the entire building was fitted out with lights and a water system and turned into a multi level indoor FARM! Is that Cool or What?
This project will be most successful in Northern cities but may benefit others as well due to shipping costs and a growing market for affordable fresh organic produce.As fuel prices rise so will the price of the purchases we make.That is a virtual guarantee of success because energy used in an indoor farm[when properly outfitted]is proportionally much lower.
I contacted these folks[wonderful Eco minded people] and asked for the results of there two years in business.I found an everyone benefits business that had very few minor draw backs.I'd estimate a success factor of 80 to 90 percent,failure would almost certainly be operator related.
The full cost of outfitting is roughly 1/5 of renovation for any sort of habitation because the expensive finishing out is eliminated[plants don't have an appreciation for fine art,hardwood floors etc].
The high energy consumption and short life span of traditional grow lights is substituted with fluorescent light combinations of red and blue based[soft and bright]tubes,bringing the consumption of electricity over all[considered here is the complete elimination of the electrical necessity's...TVs,Ranges,Refrigerators,etc,for habitation]to a comparable level if habitation had been installed.
Water usage is higher than habitation but still acceptable.
Heating is not as high as habitation requires because most crops grow comfortably at lower temperatures.Specialty crops have area heaters installed and ventilation consists of an intake fan at one end of each floor.
Light manipulation and the use of stationary assembly lines where the plants are moved along as they grow to maturity provides weekly harvests.Produce can be harvested at the peak of ripeness and sold absolutely fresh.Imagine peak of ripeness fruit and vegetables,that's a flavor few enjoy,
Space maximization through tiring[stair stepping]the assembly lines doubles yield.
Here's the best part,No Pesticides!In door farming done properly isn't subjected to the pests that out door farms suffer.Of course care must be taken to protect against infestation by accidental means.
these folks sell fresh locally grown organic produce at two thirds the price of imported produce.
There numbers over two years indicate that there one forty story farm can feed fifty thousand people year round with fresh ripe pesticide free produce.
This plan can be adapted to any size building which makes it flexible enough for most cities and towns regardless of location.I'm sure it can even be done in the home using spare rooms,basements etc.
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The city has abandoned buildings taken care of and increases revenue through taxes,not to mention the negative visual image that these buildings lend.
Consumers get fresh ripe organic produce at roughly 1/3 lower prices.
The farmers realise a respectable profit.
The national economy is strengthened due to lower energy consumption in various areas such as fuel used to ship from other parts of the country and world,revitalisation of blighted buildings and entire areas in cities across America.It further reduces costs buy eliminating high crime areas and this spiral continues into many other secondary positive effects that are not at first obvious.
Our Story
We formed a corporation and purchased two nine story buildings that will be ready for planting in January 2010.We've added one feature that is new.The basement and ground floor of both buildings have been filled with above ground Department store swimming pools with individual heaters and filtration systems for farming a variety of fish including tilapia,trout,and perch.We hope to market "the freshest fish you can buy"in about three months.The fish will be harvested when purchased so you can go from water to frying pan in an hour.
UPDATE
May 5Th 2010:
First harvest is in and distributed to markets and area stores.We have had minor difficulties getting supermarkets to carry our produce due to fears[I suspect]of losing sales of less desirable imported mega farm produce,a nuisance at worst.This project has yielded a considerably higher profit to cost ratio than we projected but we've only been in sales for a very short time.Weekly harvests are coming along nicely and the fish idea has been spectacular though we had to open a retail outlet in one of the farms[factored in cost did bite into profit margin a bit].The price of our fish is static while gulf and ocean caught fish is expected to increase dramatically,not to mention pollutants.We have been approached by charitable groups asking for contributions and are considering various ideas in terms of out reach but have no models to follow and must wait for this project to stabilize in terms of cash flow as well as employees required.
I've received many e-mails inquiring about this venture but am to pressed to answer individually.It appears that these hard economic times are a Boone for small alternative businesses as virtually all of our projects have heated up.I hope to write an article with details when I have time.I highly recommend this project and urge you to research it and Go for it.Be sure to form corporations for each of your ventures to avoid the domino effect if one fails.
Dean
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We certainly need this. I'm a NYer and am always visiting the farmers markets and looking for fresh foods. This is a great idea, fills a need, and we need more enterprising ideas like this.
Thanks for sharing this idea. It's all about the old saying 'necessity is the mother of invention' and fresh foods are a necessity - we know that know more than ever!
Looking forward to more information!
INTERESTING ! I'll wait & see your profits.
Awesome! Fantastic!!!.....I wish you luck on this adventure. Never heard of this?
Really interesting hub! I hope you write a hub with pics of the buildings when you are ready to show everyone........
Very cool! Best, G
Great stuff - Grow ops are spouting up everywhere, growing legal crops with great success. The lighting is expensive and power bills outrageous, but with new digital ballasts that cost is going to come down, plus the power the new ballasts use will lead to solar panel roof tops to support the total.
I'm back again!
So glad this is still a 'go!' - looking forward to hearing more about it. Such a great idea!
Hi Cheaptrick,
Excellent idea. Your idea will be taken hand on hand in this green era.
Thanks and thumbs up!
Jyoti Kothari
That is a brilliant idea! Very good work for everyone involved! thanks for sharing.. and best of luck for the greatest success to you! loving hugs..
Marylynn
Very innovative! To come up with an idea like this and to actually execute it must have taken a lot of passion and effort. Great job ... thanks for sharing!
i'm very interested in indoor growing. A country girl in the big city needs to know what types of plants (edible) grow well in this type environment?
I can't even begin to express how imprewwed I am by this project! I think you guys need some media coverage to get this wonderful concept out! Really... fantastic!
OOPS! Major type-o... I meant IMPRESSED!!! What in the heck is impreWWed? (Sorry)
What's a prune moment? Never mind.... ;)
that would solve my problem with having a yard to small to grow a garden- just grow indoors. That is pretty cool though. Great hub.
I thought of this a few years ago and my counties beautiful farmlands were being turning into developments. I thought, "how are we going to feed all the people on the planet if we keep destroying all our farmland" It is because this reason that I thought of the idea myself, but also, it is for the same reason that I am worried about the implications this could have on our country's dwindling farmland. If you could mass produce food in cities, what would that mean for our farms? Love the idea and I'm amazed someone else not only thought of it, but is also doing something about it. Have you also considered the concern I have raised? About how much was needed in startup cap?
I have a question - how do you handle the humidity problem I am sure you have with plants. What do you do to control the mold build up?
I like the installment idea - take each component of indoor gardening and expand on it in detail - then link all the hubs to each other.
You mentioned red and blue fluorescent lighting..... are they the normal plant (grow) bulbs or do you have a specific alternative. An installment on lighting would be useful.
I think a ton of people would be interested..... may take lots of back link to your hubs to generate maximum interest but no doubt it would be worth it.
I'll be back -- LOL
I find both the indoor growing and plants interesting. There are outdoor fish farms in this area but I do not know of any indoor other than those that only supply hatching, and they are linked through streams to outdoor.
The indoor gardens within buildings makes sense here as winters are long.... and people have to eat all winter too. LOL
As for back linking hubs together - that is easy. Once your hubs are uploaded, just place a list of them all on the bottom of each hub and use the url/http tool on the edit page.
Back links are another story, Private Message me if you get to the point time wise and I can give you some ideas.
Looking forward to learning more..... I am involved in another business project but once it is up and running I will investigate doing some indoor farming here too. I appreciate your info and input.
How do you get the stores to take your produce? I thought they HAD to go trough USDA
I am bookmarking but I am not sharing. lol
I really do take offense when I take the time to read a very long hub and stop to comment, that you have to approve it
Cheaptrick - Thanks for all the goo info. Just wondering, what plants do you primarily grow? Thx!
Fantastic idea. I am so pleased to read that somebody used their brainpower and came up with this solution.
Good luck on finding an outlet that works for you. It would be nice if you had a few street vender carts on your team.
People questioned my friend who went to school for Horticulture. Laugh away, meanwhile, she talked about a friend interested in buying an empty Kmart store space and covert it to year-round indoor farming. My friend in Appleton, Wisconsin is spot on. I live in Chicago on the North Side where we already have a good amount of locally grown food and stores. We're going to a seed swap next weekend to buy up some non-genetically altered seeds (we want the ones that will pollinate - as opposed to the ones sold by the big seed companies that are one-use due to genetic modification). Hooray for sustainability.
This is fatastic! I'm very excited about the idea and would love for it to catch on here in the UK, well everywhere! Thanks for sharing it.
Could you elaborate more on the heating systems you use in your indoor farms? Also, your last update was on May 10th of last year. An update with how your year went and what your plans are for 2011 would be most helpful given you have a year of experience under your belt now. Also very interested in learning about the markets you have found to sell to. Thx!
This is some great news!
What city do you operate this in?
What about the new york guys? Do they have a web site?
How many others are doing this at a profitable level?
I really want to start a project like this.
Thanks.
Hi Dean,
Great project! I was researching indoor farming when I stumbled across your Hub. What type of you growing method do you use? (Raised beds? Hydroponics?) You sound busy, but an update on your project would be very much appreciated!!
Cheers!
Bev
What is the farm called? Where ?
Would like to start something like this in Florida. would like to talk and see if you can advise or do a joint venture.
How can I get in touch with the owners of this project and the one they contacted originally to base theirs off of.
i drew up a idea on the same concept as this except my idea was to have a building mostly underground so it would be safe from freak storms and id look to have it tornado proof as much as possible and it would be eco friendly by using rain water and recycled waste water that comes from a grey water set up aka fish tanks. the roof would be equipped with retractable steel shutters and the under that would basically be a giant window that would be made of solar panels that is if i could set it up with transparent solar panels, these panels would supply electricity to the computers and lights but as u would guess it would only be a means of cutting down it would still need another means of power but if there was a rain catching setup or a way of using a stream to run through a hydro electric generator and also be used for the hydroponic system which i could think of a few ways to make a system like that, well anyway combine that with the fact that i would creat a compost storage for creating bio fuel and also compost itself could be used for growing certain plants that require soil. all together u have one amazing farm that practically runs itself is low cost and would create jobs for programers botanists harvesters/care takers for dead plant material its a win win for everyone! =)





















sweetypie1968 2 years ago
What a fabulous idea! You and your friend are geniuses! Our community could really use something like this. How did you learn how to raise the produce? I planted a garden last year that did horribly. What's your secret? (If you don't mind sharing.)